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LittleEndian's Circle Cleaning Diary -- Week 0
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LittleEndian65
2018-01-07 20:04:48 UTC
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Since nobody else is posting anything of note to the group, I've decided
to talk into the void and use it as an excuse to clean my circle.

I know how to clean my circle. I also know how to slowly let it become
messy again. This is a cycle I've been in for probably over a decade
now. I wouldn't give myself much hope of escaping this cycle, but my
circumstances have recently changed, and a cleaner circle is becoming
more of a necessity.

To start with, the plan is to do two 30-minutes sessions of cleaning
each day, one in the morning and one before bed. On top of that, I
intend to not mess up my circle throughout the rest of the day. I expect
this plan to evolve over the coming weeks.

My goal is to clean the circle and keep it clean. I only have humble
ambitions -- no enchanting of brooms to move water.

I intend to post once a week, each Sunday night, with a short report of
my week.
Mike_Duffy
2018-01-08 02:15:43 UTC
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Post by LittleEndian65
Since nobody else is posting anything of note to the group, I've decided
to talk into the void and use it as an excuse to clean my circle.
It might superficially resemble a void, but is actually an echo chamber
wherein the echoes are modulated by other concious entities. (i.e. other
faceless Usenet posters).

I have absolutely no idea why I continue to follow this group. Most of the
interesting posters from yesteryear have become inactive. I guess I'm a
creature of habit.

BTW, thanks for the link in the parallel thread.
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I know how to clean my circle. I also know how to slowly let it become
messy again. This is a cycle I've been in for probably over a decade
now. I wouldn't give myself much hope of escaping this cycle, but my
circumstances have recently changed, and a cleaner circle is becoming
more of a necessity.
At the risk(*) of sounding stupid, what is circle cleaning?
Post by LittleEndian65
My goal is to clean the circle and keep it clean. I only have humble
ambitions -- no enchanting of brooms to move water.
Whatever the expression means, it's probably a good idea because keeping
anything clean usually makes it last longer. Plus there are always
aesthetics to consider.


(*) Not really much of a risk, considering the dearth of current group
followers.
LittleEndian65
2018-01-08 21:49:27 UTC
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Since nobody else is posting anything of note to the group, I've decided
to talk into the void and use it as an excuse to clean my circle.
It might superficially resemble a void, but is actually an echo chamber
wherein the echoes are modulated by other concious entities. (i.e. other
faceless Usenet posters).
I have absolutely no idea why I continue to follow this group. Most of the
interesting posters from yesteryear have become inactive. I guess I'm a
creature of habit.
BTW, thanks for the link in the parallel thread.
Post by LittleEndian65
I know how to clean my circle. I also know how to slowly let it become
messy again. This is a cycle I've been in for probably over a decade
now. I wouldn't give myself much hope of escaping this cycle, but my
circumstances have recently changed, and a cleaner circle is becoming
more of a necessity.
At the risk(*) of sounding stupid,
On the contrary, I think it is me who sounds stupid for using the term.
Of all the traditions, this is the one that the mentally ill flock. But
we are in alt.magick. When in Rome...
Post by Mike_Duffy
what is circle cleaning?
Crowley describes the circle here, amongst other terms:
https://hermetic.com/crowley/book-4/aba2

To me, the circle is your mind. To have a clean circle is to have a
quiet mind, although it is probably more accurate to say it is when you
can remain equanimous regardless of the contents of your mind. I'd say
that, ultimately, it is the ability to unflinchingly perceive this
moment without referring to your judgements about it.

I like Jeff Foster's explanation:

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My goal is to clean the circle and keep it clean. I only have humble
ambitions -- no enchanting of brooms to move water.
Whatever the expression means, it's probably a good idea because keeping
anything clean usually makes it last longer. Plus there are always
aesthetics to consider.
Especially if you have some sort of infestation to uncover, which you
need to rid yourself of and clean up after. I believe that will be a
theme I'll visit in the coming weeks.
Post by Mike_Duffy
(*) Not really much of a risk, considering the dearth of current group
followers.
One of the great things about alt.magick is, if you're anonymous, you
don't need to care about making a fool of yourself. It was an
opportunity that in the past I didn't take advantage of as much as I
perhaps should have. I was generally ready to admit when I was wrong or
at fault, but I still wanted to protect myself from shame, to try to
portray myself as someone that was worthy of some respect.
Krysta Laurie
2018-01-10 08:09:06 UTC
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the circle is an echo chamber... so my goal is to create rhythms, not to clean. Sensory deprivation drives people mad I hear!
LittleEndian65
2018-01-10 20:08:56 UTC
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the circle is an echo chamber... so my goal is to create rhythms, not to clean. Sensory deprivation drives people mad I hear!
I'm not sure "circle cleaning" equates to sensory deprivation. See this:
http://www.sacred-texts.com/oto/aba/chap13.htm

But I think you have a point. Given "That first task of the Magician in
every ceremony is therefore to render his Circle absolutely
impregnable.", and that is my humble goal, I'll rename my posts to
"LittleEndian's Circle Strengthening Diary". Then I get to keep my
alliteration.
Krysta Laurie
2018-01-13 07:41:33 UTC
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I have a copy of ABA at my house, lol. That last bit was a sorry attempt at humor on my behalf by extrapolating the subject matter.
Bassos
2018-01-20 14:43:48 UTC
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Since nobody else is posting anything of note to the group,
Evidence of you posting eliminates your presented 'need' for posting.

Just post if you choose to, no reasons needed.
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I've decided to talk into the void and use it as an excuse to clean my circle.
Excuses schmack-chooses.
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I know how to clean my circle.
Not well enuff to predate your presenting an excuse to post.
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I also know how to slowly let it become
messy again. This is a cycle I've been in for probably over a decade
now. I wouldn't give myself much hope of escaping this cycle, but my
circumstances have recently changed, and a cleaner circle is becoming
more of a necessity.
Ooh, excitement, tension, and the promise of release;

Better be good ...
Post by LittleEndian65
To start with, the plan is to do two 30-minutes sessions of cleaning
each day, one in the morning and one before bed.
Heh.
Thank the morning and cower for the darkness ?

Real cleaning is continuous.

Like what your body actually does.

First step ?

Relax your shoulders.
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On top of that, I intend to not mess up my circle throughout the rest of the day.
Nonono.

The mess is inside you, not in the messy kitchen.

Ya know the whole being comfortable while being uncomfortable.

You clean, to make something clean.

Coz the muze struk ya, or coz someone else comes along.
No need to make points.

Unless in alt.magick off-course.
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I expect this plan to evolve over the coming weeks.
Expectations ?

Freely admitted in alt.magick ?

Boy are you gonna gettit :)


(lacking several 9 foot tall gorillas, a link will do)
Post by LittleEndian65
My goal is to clean the circle and keep it clean. I only have humble
ambitions -- no enchanting of brooms to move water.
Shoot beyond the Crown.

No goals anymore.

Just discovering how what ever happens anyway helps you to shoot beyond
the corwn.
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I intend to post once a week, each Sunday night, with a short report of
my week.
Looking forward to tomorrow :)
LittleEndian65
2018-01-21 21:05:19 UTC
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Since nobody else is posting anything of note to the group,
Evidence of you posting eliminates your presented 'need' for posting.
Posting doesn't equate to posting something of note. For example, look
at your posts. Vacuous is the word that comes to mind. Hell, the posting
here became so vacuous that even Tom left. Hence the 'need' for posting
something of note.
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Just post if you choose to, no reasons needed.
Post by LittleEndian65
I've decided to talk into the void and use it as an excuse to clean my circle.
Excuses schmack-chooses.
Post by LittleEndian65
I know how to clean my circle.
Not well enuff to predate your presenting an excuse to post.
Post by LittleEndian65
I also know how to slowly let it become
messy again. This is a cycle I've been in for probably over a decade
now. I wouldn't give myself much hope of escaping this cycle, but my
circumstances have recently changed, and a cleaner circle is becoming
more of a necessity.
Ooh, excitement, tension, and the promise of release;
Better be good ...
Post by LittleEndian65
To start with, the plan is to do two 30-minutes sessions of cleaning
each day, one in the morning and one before bed.
Heh.
Thank the morning and cower for the darkness ?
Real cleaning is continuous.
Like what your body actually does.
First step ?
Relax your shoulders.
Post by LittleEndian65
On top of that, I intend to not mess up my circle throughout the rest of the day.
Nonono.
And so you demonstrate your idiocy. You say "Real cleaning is
continuous", and yet if you had read a couple of line more before
replying, you would have seen that I intend to keep my cleaning
"continuous". But even when you do read that I intend to keep my
cleaning "continuous", this fact is lost on you, so you reply "Nonono."
Post by Bassos
The mess is inside you, not in the messy kitchen.
My circle is inside me...

Been a long time Bassos. How's life? I'm surprised you're still here, to
be honest. I always you knew you were a little touched, shall we say,
but I didn't realised *how* touched. That said, and for what it's worth,
I think you're a fitting king of alt.magick. Long may you reign.
Bassos
2018-01-23 11:26:50 UTC
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Since nobody else is posting anything of note to the group,
Evidence of you posting eliminates your presented 'need' for posting.
Posting doesn't equate to posting something of note.
So your own posting was not of note to you.

Okay, next time make more of an effort.
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Just post if you choose to, no reasons needed.
Post by LittleEndian65
I've decided to talk into the void and use it as an excuse to clean my circle.
Excuses schmack-chooses.
Post by LittleEndian65
I know how to clean my circle.
Not well enuff to predate your presenting an excuse to post.
Post by LittleEndian65
I also know how to slowly let it become
messy again. This is a cycle I've been in for probably over a decade
now. I wouldn't give myself much hope of escaping this cycle, but my
circumstances have recently changed, and a cleaner circle is becoming
more of a necessity.
Ooh, excitement, tension, and the promise of release;
Better be good ...
Post by LittleEndian65
To start with, the plan is to do two 30-minutes sessions of cleaning
each day, one in the morning and one before bed.
Heh.
Thank the morning and cower for the darkness ?
Real cleaning is continuous.
Like what your body actually does.
First step ?
Relax your shoulders.
Post by LittleEndian65
On top of that, I intend to not mess up my circle throughout the rest of the day.
Nonono.
And so you demonstrate your idiocy.
Heh.

That must be it.
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You say "Real cleaning is
continuous", and yet if you had read a couple of line more before
replying, you would have seen that I intend to keep my cleaning
"continuous". But even when you do read that I intend to keep my
cleaning "continuous", this fact is lost on you, so you reply "Nonono."
You are the one claiming to do cleaning twice per day.

And you are the one demonstrating through your behaviour that you most
definitely do not do the continuous cleansing.
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The mess is inside you, not in the messy kitchen.
My circle is inside me...
And inside you is the entire universe, so that leads to ?
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Been a long time Bassos. How's life?
Same oll same oll, noobs make stupid remarks, and then get mad at me for
pointing out their behaviour.
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I'm surprised you're still here, to be honest.
Alt.magick is not a place.

To check in once a week or so takes hardly any effort.

Why would that surprise you ?

people in your experience tend to give up easily ?
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I always you knew you were a little touched, shall we say,
but I didn't realised *how* touched.
Touched by God for sure.

That is why my magick works, and yours is futile waving.
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That said, and for what it's worth,
I think you're a fitting king of alt.magick. Long may you reign.
Heh, idiot filter takes out another idiot.

Kings of the earth.

I take it you yourself are therefore not a king of the earth, and by
extention not a King off alt.magick ?

Right.

Ya know the whole 'what if yonder beggar is a king' with the Kings may
choose their garments but eeediots cannot hide their poverty.
LittleEndian65
2018-01-28 21:21:35 UTC
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Since nobody else is posting anything of note to the group,
Evidence of you posting eliminates your presented 'need' for posting.
Posting doesn't equate to posting something of note.
So your own posting was not of note to you.
I said nobody else, i.e. nobody else but me is posting anything of note.

You still have trouble reading what people are saying, eh?
Bassos
2018-01-29 17:40:05 UTC
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Since nobody else is posting anything of note to the group,
Evidence of you posting eliminates your presented 'need' for posting.
Posting doesn't equate to posting something of note.
So your own posting was not of note to you.
I said nobody else, i.e. nobody else but me is posting anything of note.
Yes.

Exactly my point.

You consider yourself separate, so your crossing of the abyss can not
yet occur.

Any movement is all moving.
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You still have trouble reading what people are saying, eh?
That must be IT.

So IT has interesting side things.

Nu-IT
Had-IT

Kinda like the bible has interesting things about AL.
Aleph lamed.

31

Kinda like Americains mispronounce elohim.

That would be AL him.

Micha-AL.
Rapha-AL.
Gabri_AL
Aur-i-AL.

So weird :)
(not really)
Mike_Duffy
2018-01-29 17:46:16 UTC
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Exactly my point.
Usually, your points are elusive. But they do cause us at least to think,
so they are not totally pointless.
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Micha-AL.
Yeah, that's my name. God's right hand Archangel.
Bassos
2018-02-04 20:35:22 UTC
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Exactly my point.
Usually, your points are elusive.
Heh.

Pointing out that someone is doing what they are complaining about comes
meta.
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But they do cause us at least to think,
so they are not totally pointless.
You just described my posts as art.

Thanks, i guess.

Nobody likes an art critic.
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Micha-AL.
Yeah, that's my name. God's right hand Archangel.
I thought you had to move backwards into the otz chillum.

There is no hierarchy between front-back-right-left

They are all needed to create here, and now.

Not even mentioning above and below, sheesh!
LittleEndian65
2018-01-29 20:30:31 UTC
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Since nobody else is posting anything of note to the group,
Evidence of you posting eliminates your presented 'need' for posting.
Posting doesn't equate to posting something of note.
So your own posting was not of note to you.
I said nobody else, i.e. nobody else but me is posting anything of note.
Yes.
Exactly my point.
Nature requires exploration.
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You consider yourself separate, so your crossing of the abyss can not
yet occur.
Any movement is all moving.
Wonder is the driver of will. The goal of four-dimensional
superstructures is to plant the seeds of learning rather than illusion.
Where there is stagnation, empathy cannot thrive.
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You still have trouble reading what people are saying, eh?
That must be IT.
Have you found your circuit? If you have never experienced this
reimagining devoid of self, it can be difficult to dream. It can be
difficult to know where to begin.
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So IT has interesting side things.
Nu-IT
Had-IT
Kinda like the bible has interesting things about AL.
Aleph lamed.
31
Kinda like Americains mispronounce elohim.
That would be AL him.
Micha-AL.
Rapha-AL.
Gabri_AL
Aur-i-AL.
So weird :)
(not really)
We are at a crossroads of joy and desire. We are in the midst of an
angelic ennobling of gratitude that will align us with the world itself.
Reality has always been bursting with entities whose essences are
engulfed in starfire.

Consciousness is the growth of awareness, and of us. By ennobling, we
reflect. To follow the quest is to become one with it.

You must take a stand against stagnation. Yes, it is possible to shatter
the things that can shatter us, but not without ecstasy on our side.
Selfishness is the antithesis of self-actualization.
Bassos
2018-02-04 20:48:40 UTC
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Since nobody else is posting anything of note to the group,
Evidence of you posting eliminates your presented 'need' for posting.
Posting doesn't equate to posting something of note.
So your own posting was not of note to you.
I said nobody else, i.e. nobody else but me is posting anything of note.
Yes.
Exactly my point.
Nature requires exploration.
Nonsense.

Nature moves as the uni-verse moves.

You may find exploration fun though.
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You consider yourself separate, so your crossing of the abyss can not
yet occur.
Any movement is all moving.
Wonder is the driver of will.
Nonsense.

Will is will.

Nothing else.

Wonder is the enjoyment that cumms befoar union.

I really should count the letters and their values before i think it is
beautiful anyway.

Anyone did that ?

Wonder, 6
is, 2
the 3
enjoyment, 9
that, 4
cumms, 5
befoar, 6
union, 5

And then letter value,

wonder, 6, 5+6+5+4+5+9 34
is, 2, 9+1 10
the, 3, 2+8+5 15
enjoyment, 9, 5+5+1+6+7+4+5+5+2 40
that, 4 2+8+1+2 13
cumms, 5 3+3+4+4+1 21
befoar. 6, 2+5+6+6+1+9 26
union, 5, 3+5+9+6+5 28

and then 17 value :

Heh.
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The goal of four-dimensional
superstructures is to plant the seeds of learning rather than illusion.
Where there is stagnation, empathy cannot thrive.
Unless mercury retrograde off-course.

At such times turning inside and experiencing the inner mollrat can be
Ohm-light-ning.
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You still have trouble reading what people are saying, eh?
That must be IT.
Have you found your circuit?
*MY* anything ?

That too can be discarded on the road along joy.
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If you have never experienced this
reimagining devoid of self, it can be difficult to dream. It can be
difficult to know where to begin.
Beginning is always without knowledge.

That is the joy of movement.
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So IT has interesting side things.
Nu-IT
Had-IT
Kinda like the bible has interesting things about AL.
Aleph lamed.
31
Kinda like Americains mispronounce elohim.
That would be AL him.
Micha-AL.
Rapha-AL.
Gabri_AL
Aur-i-AL.
So weird :)
(not really)
We are at a crossroads of joy and desire. We are in the midst of an
angelic ennobling of gratitude that will align us with the world itself.
Blah blah.

/we are the world.
LittleEndian65
2018-02-04 21:56:22 UTC
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Since nobody else is posting anything of note to the group,
Evidence of you posting eliminates your presented 'need' for posting.
Posting doesn't equate to posting something of note.
So your own posting was not of note to you.
I said nobody else, i.e. nobody else but me is posting anything of note.
Yes.
Exactly my point.
Nature requires exploration.
Nonsense.
Nature moves as the uni-verse moves.
You may find exploration fun though.
Intuition is the birth of synchronicity, and of us. Learning is a
constant. Today, science tells us that the essence of nature is wellbeing.
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You consider yourself separate, so your crossing of the abyss can not
yet occur.
Any movement is all moving.
Wonder is the driver of will.
Nonsense.
Will is will.
Nothing else.
Wonder is the enjoyment that cumms befoar union.
I really should count the letters and their values before i think it is
beautiful anyway.
Anyone did that ?
Wonder, 6
is, 2
the 3
enjoyment, 9
that, 4
cumms, 5
befoar, 6
union, 5
And then letter value,
wonder, 6, 5+6+5+4+5+9 34
is, 2, 9+1 10
the, 3, 2+8+5 15
enjoyment, 9, 5+5+1+6+7+4+5+5+2 40
that, 4 2+8+1+2 13
cumms, 5 3+3+4+4+1 21
befoar. 6, 2+5+6+6+1+9 26
union, 5, 3+5+9+6+5 28
Heh.
We must fulfill ourselves and inspire others.

You and I are starseeds of the stratosphere. We exist as ultrasonic
energy. Wisdom requires exploration.
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The goal of four-dimensional
superstructures is to plant the seeds of learning rather than illusion.
Where there is stagnation, empathy cannot thrive.
Unless mercury retrograde off-course.
At such times turning inside and experiencing the inner mollrat can be
Ohm-light-ning.
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You still have trouble reading what people are saying, eh?
That must be IT.
Have you found your circuit?
*MY* anything ?
That too can be discarded on the road along joy.
Have you found your myth? Entity, look within and empower yourself. How
should you navigate this conscious infinite?

We are at a crossroads of consciousness and discontinuity. Humankind has
nothing to lose. We are in the midst of a sensual invocation of love
that will give us access to the nexus itself.
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If you have never experienced this
reimagining devoid of self, it can be difficult to dream. It can be
difficult to know where to begin.
Beginning is always without knowledge.
That is the joy of movement.
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Post by Bassos
So IT has interesting side things.
Nu-IT
Had-IT
Kinda like the bible has interesting things about AL.
Aleph lamed.
31
Kinda like Americains mispronounce elohim.
That would be AL him.
Micha-AL.
Rapha-AL.
Gabri_AL
Aur-i-AL.
So weird :)
(not really)
We are at a crossroads of joy and desire. We are in the midst of an
angelic ennobling of gratitude that will align us with the world itself.
Blah blah.
/we are the world.
Our conversations with other adventurers have led to a refining of
hyper-intergalactic consciousness. Throughout history, humans have been
interacting with the dreamtime via molecular structures. Who are we?
Where on the great mission will we be reborn?

The complexity of the present time seems to demand an awakening of our
bodies if we are going to survive. Without serenity, one cannot vibrate.
We can no longer afford to live with turbulence.
Bassos
2018-02-05 10:59:25 UTC
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Since nobody else is posting anything of note to the group,
Evidence of you posting eliminates your presented 'need' for posting.
Posting doesn't equate to posting something of note.
So your own posting was not of note to you.
I said nobody else, i.e. nobody else but me is posting anything of note.
Yes.
Exactly my point.
Nature requires exploration.
Nonsense.
Nature moves as the uni-verse moves.
You may find exploration fun though.
Intuition is the birth of synchronicity,
Nonsense.

Intuition is the riding the movement of the universe.

'It feels this way'.
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Learning is a constant.
Learning is such a limited term.

Adjusting, adapting, changing, moving.

To learn something imp-lies that there is knowledge.
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Today, science tells us that the essence of nature is wellbeing.
Science does not speak.

Science is a method.

Refine the way you express yourself, to also refine the way you move
internally.

And i am drinking a 12% beer right now, on a monday at noon.
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You consider yourself separate, so your crossing of the abyss can not
yet occur.
Any movement is all moving.
Wonder is the driver of will.
Nonsense.
Will is will.
Nothing else.
Wonder is the enjoyment that cumms befoar union.
I really should count the letters and their values before i think it
is beautiful anyway.
Anyone did that ?
Wonder, 6
is, 2
the 3
enjoyment, 9
that, 4
cumms, 5
befoar, 6
union, 5
And then letter value,
wonder, 6, 5+6+5+4+5+9 34
is, 2, 9+1 10
the, 3, 2+8+5 15
enjoyment, 9, 5+5+1+6+7+4+5+5+2 40
that, 4 2+8+1+2 13
cumms, 5 3+3+4+4+1 21
befoar. 6, 2+5+6+6+1+9 26
union, 5, 3+5+9+6+5 28
Heh.
We must fulfill ourselves and inspire others.
We must nothing.

We move.

We express

We sing together the song of creation.

You *HAVE* experienced the angels singing the song of creation, while
you rise up besides them to dance at the Throne, right ?
Post by LittleEndian65
You and I are starseeds of the stratosphere.
So first i are ze suxxors.
but now i ama starseeds ?

Strato-sphere to limited.

Crystalized Ring of Pass-not.

I did pass.

Kinda like the dragon ball z episode where Goku is in the afterlife, and
falls of snakeway, into a place where the clouds create a ceiling of
pass not.

For me the sphere was a crystal structure.

Headbutt right through.
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Wisdom requires exploration.
Wisdom is a label we use to describe a plethora of movements.

That does not require anything, we attribute it.
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The goal of four-dimensional
superstructures is to plant the seeds of learning rather than illusion.
Where there is stagnation, empathy cannot thrive.
Unless mercury retrograde off-course.
At such times turning inside and experiencing the inner mollrat can be
Ohm-light-ning.
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You still have trouble reading what people are saying, eh?
That must be IT.
Have you found your circuit?
*MY* anything ?
That too can be discarded on the road along joy.
Have you found your myth?
Make astrology great again ?

See ?

I am not above using stupid memes to make points.

Head above the clouds, feet within the core of our planet.
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Since nobody else is posting anything of note to the group,
Evidence of you posting eliminates your presented 'need' for posting.
Posting doesn't equate to posting something of note.
So your own posting was not of note to you.
I said nobody else, i.e. nobody else but me is posting anything of note.
Yes.
Exactly my point.
Nature requires exploration.
Nonsense.
Nature moves as the uni-verse moves.
You may find exploration fun though.
Intuition is the birth of synchronicity,
Nonsense.
Intuition is the riding the movement of the universe.
'It feels this way'.
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Learning is a constant.
Learning is such a limited term.
Adjusting, adapting, changing, moving.
To learn something imp-lies that there is knowledge.
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Today, science tells us that the essence of nature is wellbeing.
Science does not speak.
Science is a method.
Refine the way you express yourself, to also refine the way you move
internally.
And i am drinking a 12% beer right now, on a monday at noon.
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You consider yourself separate, so your crossing of the abyss can not
yet occur.
Any movement is all moving.
Wonder is the driver of will.
Nonsense.
Will is will.
Nothing else.
Wonder is the enjoyment that cumms befoar union.
I really should count the letters and their values before i think it
is beautiful anyway.
Anyone did that ?
Wonder, 6
is, 2
the 3
enjoyment, 9
that, 4
cumms, 5
befoar, 6
union, 5
And then letter value,
wonder, 6, 5+6+5+4+5+9 34
is, 2, 9+1 10
the, 3, 2+8+5 15
enjoyment, 9, 5+5+1+6+7+4+5+5+2 40
that, 4 2+8+1+2 13
cumms, 5 3+3+4+4+1 21
befoar. 6, 2+5+6+6+1+9 26
union, 5, 3+5+9+6+5 28
Heh.
We must fulfill ourselves and inspire others.
We must nothing.
We move.
We express
We sing together the song of creation.
You *HAVE* experienced the angels singing the song of creation, while
you rise up besides them to dance at the Throne, right ?
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You and I are starseeds of the stratosphere.
So first i are ze suxxors.
but now i ama starseeds ?
Strato-sphere to limited.
Crystalized Ring of Pass-not.
I did pass.
Kinda like the dragon ball z episode where Goku is in the afterlife, and
falls of snakeway, into a place where the clouds create a ceiling of
pass not.
For me the sphere was a crystal structure.
Headbutt right through.
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Wisdom requires exploration.
Wisdom is a label we use to describe a plethora of movements.
That does not require anything, we attribute it.
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The goal of four-dimensional
superstructures is to plant the seeds of learning rather than illusion.
Where there is stagnation, empathy cannot thrive.
Unless mercury retrograde off-course.
At such times turning inside and experiencing the inner mollrat can be
Ohm-light-ning.
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You still have trouble reading what people are saying, eh?
That must be IT.
Have you found your circuit?
*MY* anything ?
That too can be discarded on the road along joy.
Have you found your myth?
Make astrology great again ?
See ?
I am not above using stupid memes to make points.
Head above the clouds, feet within the core of our planet.
http://sebpearce.com/bullshit/

I like to quote the spiritual bullshit generator to see how idiots like
yourself react.

You didn't figure out that you were responding to computer-generated
nonsense, which is not surprising given all the nonsense you yourself spew.

That said, for all I know you might be a more sophisticated
language-generating bot. It's not impossible. So maybe the jokes on me.
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That said, for all I know you might be a more sophisticated
language-generating bot. It's not impossible. So maybe the jokes on me.
I actually made this mistake in newsgroup "alt.atheism". I really thought
that user "Janhu" was employing something like a perl script to search for
a limited number of specific keywords and then copy/paste related tracts
from a boilerplate list of quotes from the holy book of his Vedic religious
cult.

It turns out, I was wrong. He's just so entrenched in his delusions that he
resembles a robot.
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That said, for all I know you might be a more sophisticated
language-generating bot. It's not impossible. So maybe the jokes on me.
I actually made this mistake in newsgroup "alt.atheism". I really thought
that user "Janhu" was employing something like a perl script to search for
a limited number of specific keywords and then copy/paste related tracts
from a boilerplate list of quotes from the holy book of his Vedic religious
cult.
It turns out, I was wrong. He's just so entrenched in his delusions that he
resembles a robot.
I'm inclined to think that many people's words here could be
convincingly substituted by an AI based on current technology. There are
lot of people out there who have never learned to reason and are so
hopelessly lost in their own minds that their behaviour is predictable
and dumb, and thereby can be easily impersonated.
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That said, for all I know you might be a more sophisticated
language-generating bot. It's not impossible. So maybe the jokes on me.
I actually made this mistake in newsgroup "alt.atheism". I really thought
that user "Janhu" was employing something like a perl script to search for
a limited number of specific keywords and then copy/paste related tracts
from a boilerplate list of quotes from the holy book of his Vedic religious
cult.
It turns out, I was wrong. He's just so entrenched in his delusions that he
resembles a robot.
I'm inclined to think that many people's words here could be
convincingly substituted by an AI based on current technology. There are
lot of people out there who have never learned to reason and are so
hopelessly lost in their own minds that their behaviour is predictable
and dumb, and thereby can be easily impersonated.
Have you done your daily work yet ?

Complaining about other people, while you also claim you are not doing
the work.

Hypocrite much ?
LittleEndian65
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That said, for all I know you might be a more sophisticated
language-generating bot. It's not impossible. So maybe the jokes on me.
I actually made this mistake in newsgroup "alt.atheism". I really thought
that user "Janhu" was employing something like a perl script to search for
a limited number of specific keywords and then copy/paste related tracts
from a boilerplate list of quotes from the holy book of his Vedic religious
cult.
It turns out, I was wrong. He's just so entrenched in his delusions that he
resembles a robot.
I'm inclined to think that many people's words here could be
convincingly substituted by an AI based on current technology. There are
lot of people out there who have never learned to reason and are so
hopelessly lost in their own minds that their behaviour is predictable
and dumb, and thereby can be easily impersonated.
Have you done your daily work yet ?
Complaining about other people, while you also claim you are not doing
the work.
Hypocrite much
I'm not complaining about other people. That I think they're hopelessly
lost in their own minds and that their behaviour is predictable doesn't
mean that I think they should or shouldn't do that.

I've always found it interesting how little people on alt.magick have
admitted weakness or flaws or failures. I guess because it's so easy to
present a front when posting anonymously on the internet. Most people
like to big up their ego by fantasising about how they're beating others
in arguments, how others are running away from their wisdom.

I intend to present an accurate view of my life during my final stint
here, rather than try to hide my flaws and failures.

Have you ever done that?
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That said, for all I know you might be a more sophisticated
language-generating bot. It's not impossible. So maybe the jokes on me.
I actually made this mistake in newsgroup "alt.atheism". I really thought
that user "Janhu" was employing something like a perl script to search for
a limited number of specific keywords and then copy/paste related tracts
from a boilerplate list of quotes from the holy book of his Vedic religious
cult.
It turns out, I was wrong. He's just so entrenched in his delusions that he
resembles a robot.
I'm inclined to think that many people's words here could be
convincingly substituted by an AI based on current technology. There are
lot of people out there who have never learned to reason and are so
hopelessly lost in their own minds that their behaviour is predictable
and dumb, and thereby can be easily impersonated.
Have you done your daily work yet ?
Complaining about other people, while you also claim you are not doing
the work.
Hypocrite much
I'm not complaining about other people. That I think they're hopelessly
lost in their own minds and that their behaviour is predictable doesn't
mean that I think they should or shouldn't do that.
There is obvious denouncement.

Also called whining.

Rejoice that the perfect path of anyone other than yourself is way
different than yours.
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I've always found it interesting how little people on alt.magick have
admitted weakness or flaws or failures.
See ?

complaining.

Whining.

And factually incorrect.

Also known as straw man.
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I guess because it's so easy to
present a front when posting anonymously on the internet. Most people
like to big up their ego by fantasising about how they're beating others
in arguments, how others are running away from their wisdom.
You mean like pretending to be someone who will someday in the future
start doing some of the work, maybe ?
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I intend to present an accurate view of my life during my final stint
here, rather than try to hide my flaws and failures.
Final stint ?

You dieing soon ?
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Have you ever done that?
Many many times.

And that is not something special.

That is just honesty as a basic mode of operation.
Krysta Laurie
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reason is a lie though!
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reason is a lie though!
Liber AL isn't a text that is meant to taken at face value. It is
something that is meant to be mulled over, considered, researched,
attacked. Only then does it shine. It doesn't give up its gems for free.

Only a fool doesn't develop their ability to reason -- more so if they
believe that reason should be dismissed based on a literal
interpretation of a spiritual text. Reason and critical thinking are
essential to living life, not just the spiritual path.

http://www.erwinhessle.com/blog/?p=130
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The occultist who believes himself to have “experiential knowledge” which somehow “transcends reason” is therefore making a grave error, and any attempts to claim that his knowledge is “ineffable” is merely a convenient fiction to avoid coming to terms with the fact that he really doesn’t have any knowledge. It would behoove the aspiring Thelemite to accept these facts, and to recognise that if he thinks he has “knowledge which transcends reason” then he is simply deluding himself, and what he actually has is just some vague feelings that he doesn’t understand, regardless of how unattractive this may appear.
Of course, at some point somebody will raise the whole “reason is a lie” deal from AL II, 32, but this merely reveals a monumental misunderstanding of that verse and those around it. First of all, the fact that “reason is a lie” in no way implies the existence of some other form of “non-rational knowledge” that is not a lie. It merely states that knowledge is imperfect, which we already know, but imperfect knowledge is still knowledge, and it’s the only knowledge we have. Any person who is not a complete dullard already knows that we can never be 100% certain of anything, so this should be no revelation.
I'd say that if anyone intends to undertake the Great Work, reason isn't
just critical, but a *mandatory* part of doing that. Spirituality is,
ultimately, about gaining insight into the fundamental nature of
consciousness and the universe *for ourselves*, without having to trust
Crowley, Liber AL, or anyone or anything else.

People that ignore reason are destined to chase their own shadow. And
the vast majority do just that: think they have super powers, think they
are all wise and shit, and yet their life is a shambles. Bassos is a
classic example.

To tell the real magician from the pretender, you have to look at what
they do, not what they say. While I think it can be an advantage of
Usenet that we can only judge each other based on our words, in this
respect I think it is a disadvantage. Pretenders love Usenet precisely
because others cannot see how they're actually conducting their life.
They can watch countless TV shows, fuck up all their personal
relationships, require the support of family and/or the state, but on
Usenet they can escape their powerlessness and pretend to be a
mysterious, powerful magician, even if it is only themselves that
believe it.

Not that you're interested in any of that. Everything I've read from you
so far suggests to me that you're more interested in playing a character
in some make-believe world of mystery and magic, and that you have
little to no aspirations to gain real insight.

Do what thou wilt.

Incidentally, when posting to Usenet, you should quote the post you're
responding to, like I have here with yourself and Erwin, and as pretty
much everyone does on Usenet. If you don't, it's difficult to know what
you're responding to.
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I was speaking more in terms of maintaining a healthy psyche. Reason concentrates on particulars rather than a general appreciation and causes questioning of what is literally in front of your eyes. Don't you remember that saying about idiots being the happiest?
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I was speaking more in terms of maintaining a healthy psyche. Reason concentrates on particulars rather than a general appreciation and causes questioning of what is literally in front of your eyes.
The problem is that what people consider to be "literally in front of
your eyes" actually isn't that at all. It's what's in front of their
eyes plus an interpretation that they're unconscious of. Most of us have
much trouble perceiving the seperation between raw experience and
judgements made about raw experience.

For example, a believer in God might experience a voice that says "I'm
God!", and then say to themselves "I've heard the voice of God!". But
they haven't. They've experienced a voice that made a certain sound, but
the interpretation that it actually is the voice of God is their
invention. And while some interpretations may be more aligned with
reality than others, ultimately, all interpretations are the same when
you remove judgement; there is no difference.
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Don't you remember that saying about idiots being the happiest?
I don't think Liber AL is a manual for happiness. The current state of
your being is the concern of the ego. I'd say true satisfaction isn't
dependent on anything you may think or feel.

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reason is a lie though!
Liber AL isn't a text that is meant to taken at face value.
And here is (Erwin ?) telling you what it is instead.
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It is something that is meant to be mulled over, considered, researched,
attacked. Only then does it shine. It doesn't give up its gems for free.
For newbs anyway.
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I'd say that if anyone intends to undertake the Great Work,
Here some reference to some work to be done some time later.

Like a newb.
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reason isn't just critical, but a *mandatory* part of doing that.
Nonsense.

Reason is something for afterwards.

Not during.

Newb.
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Spirituality is,
ultimately, about gaining insight into the fundamental nature of
consciousness and the universe *for ourselves*, without having to trust
Crowley, Liber AL, or anyone or anything else.
Nonsense.

You trust other people to behave like them.

Like they choose, from the viewpoint they look from.

And you yourself choose(s) from your own viewpoints.
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People that ignore reason are destined to chase their own shadow.
People that think in absolutes reveal their poverty in thinking.
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And the vast majority do just that: think they have super powers, think they
are all wise and shit, and yet their life is a shambles.
In the slaughterhouse ?

Have you actually any information about any self proclaimed magus
chopped up into bits ?
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Bassos is a classic example.
Already classic, soo fancy.
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To tell the real magician from the pretender, you have to look at what
they do,
Like talk about other people instead of actual work related stuff ?

Feel like they had to post their personal journal entries into
alt.magick, and even then could not keep up with simple daily ritual ?

Those people ?
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not what they say. While I think it can be an advantage of
Usenet that we can only judge each other based on our words, in this
respect I think it is a disadvantage.
Much harder to bitch on someone's life when you do not actually know
anything about their life, yeah, bitchin.

Ya can just expose posers by words alone.

Like i have done with you, and why you are whining about the big bad Bassos.

'oh my god IT's a treble!"
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That said, for all I know you might be a more sophisticated
language-generating bot. It's not impossible. So maybe the jokes on me.
I actually made this mistake in newsgroup "alt.atheism". I really thought
that user "Janhu" was employing something like a perl script to search for
a limited number of specific keywords and then copy/paste related tracts
from a boilerplate list of quotes from the holy book of his Vedic religious
cult.
It turns out, I was wrong. He's just so entrenched in his delusions that he
resembles a robot.
I prefer to just take what is posted and treat it as separate from the
poster.

Kinda like how you treat literature, art, traffic signs.
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Since nobody else is posting anything of note to the group,
Evidence of you posting eliminates your presented 'need' for posting.
Posting doesn't equate to posting something of note.
So your own posting was not of note to you.
I said nobody else, i.e. nobody else but me is posting anything of note.
Yes.
Exactly my point.
Nature requires exploration.
Nonsense.
Nature moves as the uni-verse moves.
You may find exploration fun though.
Intuition is the birth of synchronicity,
Nonsense.
Intuition is the riding the movement of the universe.
'It feels this way'.
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Learning is a constant.
Learning is such a limited term.
Adjusting, adapting, changing, moving.
To learn something imp-lies that there is knowledge.
Post by LittleEndian65
Today, science tells us that the essence of nature is wellbeing.
Science does not speak.
Science is a method.
Refine the way you express yourself, to also refine the way you move
internally.
And i am drinking a 12% beer right now, on a monday at noon.
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You consider yourself separate, so your crossing of the abyss can not
yet occur.
Any movement is all moving.
Wonder is the driver of will.
Nonsense.
Will is will.
Nothing else.
Wonder is the enjoyment that cumms befoar union.
I really should count the letters and their values before i think it
is beautiful anyway.
Anyone did that ?
Wonder, 6
is, 2
the 3
enjoyment, 9
that, 4
cumms, 5
befoar, 6
union, 5
And then letter value,
wonder, 6, 5+6+5+4+5+9 34
is, 2, 9+1 10
the, 3, 2+8+5 15
enjoyment, 9, 5+5+1+6+7+4+5+5+2 40
that, 4 2+8+1+2 13
cumms, 5 3+3+4+4+1 21
befoar. 6, 2+5+6+6+1+9 26
union, 5, 3+5+9+6+5 28
Heh.
We must fulfill ourselves and inspire others.
We must nothing.
We move.
We express
We sing together the song of creation.
You *HAVE* experienced the angels singing the song of creation, while
you rise up besides them to dance at the Throne, right ?
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You and I are starseeds of the stratosphere.
So first i are ze suxxors.
but now i ama starseeds ?
Strato-sphere to limited.
Crystalized Ring of Pass-not.
I did pass.
Kinda like the dragon ball z episode where Goku is in the afterlife,
and falls of snakeway, into a place where the clouds create a ceiling
of pass not.
For me the sphere was a crystal structure.
Headbutt right through.
Post by LittleEndian65
Wisdom requires exploration.
Wisdom is a label we use to describe a plethora of movements.
That does not require anything, we attribute it.
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Post by Bassos
Post by LittleEndian65
The goal of four-dimensional
superstructures is to plant the seeds of learning rather than illusion.
Where there is stagnation, empathy cannot thrive.
Unless mercury retrograde off-course.
At such times turning inside and experiencing the inner mollrat can be
Ohm-light-ning.
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You still have trouble reading what people are saying, eh?
That must be IT.
Have you found your circuit?
*MY* anything ?
That too can be discarded on the road along joy.
Have you found your myth?
Make astrology great again ?
See ?
I am not above using stupid memes to make points.
Head above the clouds, feet within the core of our planet.
http://sebpearce.com/bullshit/
I like to quote the spiritual bullshit generator to see how idiots like
yourself react.
Coz you are void of substance yourself, and look for easy ways out.

We already established that.

I also note you have not in any way responded to anything i wrote in
response to your bullshit.
Not even to point and laugh.

Why do you feel that is so ?

Wanna run away, hide and refuse to do the work ?
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You didn't figure out that you were responding to computer-generated
nonsense,
I do not care.

There is a difference.

I find joy in expressing myself.

That you provided me with something other than your own words just
indicates your cowardice.

Comes along with that not doing the work you mentioned.
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which is not surprising given all the nonsense you yourself spew.
Heh, too painful for you, nice way to demonstrate what you attempted
foolishly to hide.
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AL... alhim... elohim... and let us not forget ra-hoor-khuIT. one of the formulae is homosexual in its nature but, performed properly it is not. or rather NOX. to which I toast the heavenly mother and knock.. the symmetrical unification of 86. 8-6=2. 2^3=8. 8-3=5. 6/2=3. The alchemical wedding of Christian Rosenkreutz. balanced by the holy 11 and 7. 1-3-3-3-1, 3-5-3. The pentagram properly aligned with the hexagram. The holy house 418. 4+1=5. But spirit is invisible and unstated. ABA and ABRAHADABRA! Listen well to the whirring of the Iunges my brothers!
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AL... alhim... elohim... and let us not forget ra-hoor-khuIT. one of the formulae is homosexual in its nature but, performed properly it is not. or rather NOX. to which I toast the heavenly mother and knock.. the symmetrical unification of 86. 8-6=2. 2^3=8. 8-3=5. 6/2=3. The alchemical wedding of Christian Rosenkreutz. balanced by the holy 11 and 7. 1-3-3-3-1, 3-5-3. The pentagram properly aligned with the hexagram. The holy house 418. 4+1=5. But spirit is invisible and unstated. ABA and ABRAHADABRA! Listen well to the whirring of the Iunges my brothers!
https://arxiv.org/abs/1801.05239

see period 418d and amplitude of 50ms-1
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Now that's what I'm on about! ;) it's all about pulsation.
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Now that's what I'm on about! ;) it's all about pulsation.
Well now.!
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I would also note that I live within a 45 minute drive from Cornell...
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