Post by Tom Post by Aiwass Post by Tom Post by Aiwass
As I recall, you roundly abused me for quoting or relying upon the testimony
of people who lived before 1900. Like Freud, Jung, Einstein, Newton etc etc.
You never even attempted to quote any of those people. You have
never provided a single citation from the people you mention, or
anyone else, for that matter, for anything you've claimed. And
that's something for which I have repeatedly chided you.
Wrong again. As I recall I posted a direct citation from Israel
Regardie, probably the best respected occultist since Mathers.
Did you really cite him, or did you merely allude vaguely to him? I
don't recall seeing you post any quotation or specific citation that
wasn't incorrect in one way or another. Perhaps I missed it. Feel
free to direct me to the specific post in which you cited Regardie
specifically and accurately. And then tell me when you specifically
cited any work of Freud, Jung, Newton, or Einstein, as you just
implied that you have. A scholarly citation is not just a mention of
someone's name, you know.
Dont lecture me on scientific practice. I did indeed accurately cite, a post
which was ignored by all who were vociferous in their demands for 'evidence'
For your information I attach the citation.
Post by Tom
Further, can you direct me to the post in which I abused you for
quoting anybody who lived prior to 1900, as you claimed I have? As
I recall, I have chided you for your consistent inability to quote
anyone at all accurately.
You abused me among other things for quoting Mathers as a source, though I
did not post a citation from him Maybe you have been abusing people for so
long you have forgotten what constitutes abuse. Also you abused Mathers,
which in my view suggests you dont have a very good understanding of who he
was and what he achieved. Just because you dont like the GD system doesnt
mean you can abuse people who do, and it certainly doesnt qualify you to
pass an opinion on probably the best occultist for hundreds of years,
despite his obvious human frailty and flaws.
Here is that citation from Regardie:
"Over and above all these methods, or, more accurately, combining these
techniques, is a final phase of Magic which I propose only to touch upon in
brief - Initiation. The necessity and rationale of this process depends upon
the postulated ability of a trained initiate to impart something of his own
illumination and spiritual power to a candidate by means of a ceremony. Such
a magnetic transmission of power is conceived to stir up the inner faculties
of the candidate - faculties dormant and obscured for many a sorry year. As
Psellus, another Neoplatonist once remarked of Magic, "Its function is to
initiate or perfect the human soul by the power of materials here on earth,
for the supreme faculty of the soul cannot by its own guidance aspire to the
sublimest intuitions, and to the comprehension of Divinity." [Israel
Oh and by the way, you did see it because I recall you answering the post.