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Bassos
2019-04-15 20:08:52 UTC
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Ola,

I will be starting a new sirius;
the 49 gates of understanding.

What do you understand about them 49 gates ?

Why 7 times 7 ?

What would be the 50 gate ?

Is understanding interesting on it's own ?

What is gate 1 anyway ?

Is that a 1=10:10=1 mirror thing ?

Seven times seven, so only the sephiroth below the abyss in their 1
degree of freedom formes ?

Malkuth of malkuth;

what is that ?
As the subject of the first week, i should really get a grasp on these
things.

Malkuth of malkuth is earth of earth.

I am thinking stillness.

Cold and dry meets colder and drier ?

What would be the 'official' statement of gate 1 ?

These and many other questions i will explore starting at my birthday;
cummin caturday.

What is your take on them 49 gates ?

What is gate 1 ?

How would i tell you about the splendour (wrong gate) of gate 1 ?

Being akin to a stone breeds perspective.
(ask odo he knows; ds9)
Bassos
2019-04-19 19:03:53 UTC
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Gate 1, always a day early...
The time before the experience of time.

The change from moving into feeling your surroundings.
Not the awareness of said surroundings, but the interaction at elast.

I thought plants, but then realized minerals.
Interaction is key in gate 1

At least befoar next weeks conclusion of week 1.

Anyone joining in at all ?

Gate 1 is the change from mechanic into feeling.

If interaction is happening change is not automatic, but interactive.

That is a big change for science, many years from now.

No such thing as ceteris paribus.

....
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Ola,
I will be starting a new sirius;
the 49 gates of understanding.
What do you understand about them 49 gates ?
Why 7 times 7 ?
What would be the 50 gate ?
Is understanding interesting on it's own ?
What is gate 1 anyway ?
Is that a 1=10:10=1 mirror thing ?
Seven times seven, so only the sephiroth below the abyss in their 1
degree of freedom formes ?
Malkuth of malkuth;
what is that ?
As the subject of the first week, i should really get a grasp on these
things.
Malkuth of malkuth is earth of earth.
I am thinking stillness.
Cold and dry meets colder and drier ?
What would be the 'official' statement of gate 1 ?
These and many other questions i will explore starting at my birthday;
cummin caturday.
What is your take on them 49 gates ?
What is gate 1 ?
How would i tell you about the splendour (wrong gate) of gate 1 ?
Being akin to a stone breeds perspective.
(ask odo he knows; ds9)
Bassos
2019-04-19 20:01:13 UTC
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Most appropriate one so far :
http://www.yashanet.com/studies/revstudy/fifty-gates.htm

49 Malchuts in Malchut - Notes accurately what he has learned

I can do that.

50. Yeshua speaking according to the will of the Father in Heaven. The
coming of the Ruach haKodesh in Acts 2

Already did far moar than that.

fucking newbs.
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Gate 1, always a day early...
The time before the experience of time.
The change from moving into feeling your surroundings.
Not the awareness of said surroundings, but the interaction at elast.
I thought plants, but then realized minerals.
Interaction is key in gate 1
At least befoar next weeks conclusion of week 1.
Anyone joining in at all ?
Gate 1 is the change from mechanic into feeling.
If interaction is happening change is not automatic, but interactive.
That is a big change for science, many years from now.
No such thing as ceteris paribus.
....
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Ola,
I will be starting a new sirius;
the 49 gates of understanding.
What do you understand about them 49 gates ?
Why 7 times 7 ?
What would be the 50 gate ?
Is understanding interesting on it's own ?
What is gate 1 anyway ?
Is that a 1=10:10=1 mirror thing ?
Seven times seven, so only the sephiroth below the abyss in their 1
degree of freedom formes ?
Malkuth of malkuth;
what is that ?
As the subject of the first week, i should really get a grasp on these
things.
Malkuth of malkuth is earth of earth.
I am thinking stillness.
Cold and dry meets colder and drier ?
What would be the 'official' statement of gate 1 ?
These and many other questions i will explore starting at my birthday;
cummin caturday.
What is your take on them 49 gates ?
What is gate 1 ?
How would i tell you about the splendour (wrong gate) of gate 1 ?
Being akin to a stone breeds perspective.
(ask odo he knows; ds9)
Bassos
2019-04-20 08:13:10 UTC
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Post by Bassos
49 Malchuts in Malchut - Notes accurately what he has learned
In this day and age, with pronoun things, what he has learned is
obviously what said being has learned.

I did not look extensively for someone else who has done this 49 gates
of understanding exploration in a 49 weeks setting.

Which is kinda the point of this project.

So gate 1, earth of earth, sustained slow movement.
Seems appropriate for a 49 weeks undertaking.

gate 1 has nothing to do with note taking, IT is about movement.

Not even feeling your moves, just them moves themselves.

Anyone have a suggestion of what to read for this first gate ?
It's a week thing, so i should/would/will do study too.
Bassos
2019-04-28 22:21:51 UTC
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Post by Bassos
49 Malchuts in Malchut - Notes accurately what he has learned
In this day and age, with pronoun things, what he has learned is
obviously what said being has learned.
I did not look extensively for someone else who has done this 49 gates
of understanding exploration in a 49 weeks setting.
Which is kinda the point of this project.
So gate 1, earth of earth, sustained slow movement.
Seems appropriate for a 49 weeks undertaking.
gate 1 has nothing to do with note taking, IT is about movement.
Not even feeling your moves, just them moves themselves.
Anyone have a suggestion of what to read for this first gate ?
It's a week thing, so i should/would/will do study too.
I have been considering malkuth of malkuth for a while now.

The most physical part of creation.

in essence the math point of mechanics.

Only motion is a weird thing.

it is being moved, while not even noticing there is movement, coz there
is no you.

Such a state is akin to being totally stoned.
(not with rocks but with ma-hihi-ru-ana)

For gate 2; yesod of malkuth, it is the foundation of movement.

A place to move in seems like a foundational move thing.

The place to move in has already been created far before we started to
go from malkuth back up the tree.

so from the point of view of movement itself, yesod is more about 'pangs
of awareness'.
there is no awareness in movement, but with yesod there starts to be
interaction.

The math point becomes an actual thing that interacts with its
surroundings, automated, for the most part, but now with 'feelings'.

feeling in the sense that free motion costs less energy than motion
obstructed.

the foundation seems to be optimization of movement through feeling of
what happens.

essence part here; the feeling of what happens.
Bassos
2019-05-05 17:00:16 UTC
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49 Malchuts in Malchut - Notes accurately what he has learned
In this day and age, with pronoun things, what he has learned is
obviously what said being has learned.
I did not look extensively for someone else who has done this 49 gates
of understanding exploration in a 49 weeks setting.
Which is kinda the point of this project.
So gate 1, earth of earth, sustained slow movement.
Seems appropriate for a 49 weeks undertaking.
gate 1 has nothing to do with note taking, IT is about movement.
Not even feeling your moves, just them moves themselves.
Anyone have a suggestion of what to read for this first gate ?
It's a week thing, so i should/would/will do study too.
I have been considering malkuth of malkuth for a while now.
The most physical part of creation.
in essence the math point of mechanics.
Only motion is a weird thing.
it is being moved, while not even noticing there is movement, coz there
is no you.
Such a state is akin to being totally stoned.
(not with rocks but with ma-hihi-ru-ana)
For gate 2; yesod of malkuth, it is the foundation of movement.
A place to move in seems like a foundational move thing.
The place to move in has already been created far before we started to
go from malkuth back up the tree.
so from the point of view of movement itself, yesod is more about 'pangs
of awareness'.
there is no awareness in movement, but with yesod there starts to be
interaction.
The math point becomes an actual thing that interacts with its
surroundings, automated, for the most part, but now with 'feelings'.
feeling in the sense that free motion costs less energy than motion
obstructed.
the foundation seems to be optimization of movement through feeling of
what happens.
essence part here; the feeling of what happens.
The difference between a mechanical world of point objects and actual
objects, that do not behave like points. It is the beginning of chaos,
unpredictability.

That goes into Hod of Malkuth.
Even though the movement of objects is unpredictable, there are patterns.

There is no I to notice them patterns, but the patterns themselves do
not mind being unnoticed.

It is one degree removed from actual movements, or observation of
movements into abstraction of motion.

'how does an object move; in general'

There are descriptions of patterns here, but not yet predictions of
motion. that comes in netzach where the patterns of hod are projected
into the actual 'field' of netzach.

To practise hod of netzach; observe patterns, without doing any
reasoning about those patterns.

And in hod of malkuth these are all patterns really.
So also nonsensical ones.

The 'testing' of perceived patterns comes way later, when there is
something perceiving; in tiphareth.

It is written that the sepihiroth can best be understood in
relationships to their partners.
We have the triangles, and the duads, the upper and lower, many
relationships. Those are supposedly explored by traveling the paths
between the sephiroth and thus is not a part of the 49 gates work.

For a random pattern thing, i post this at 19:00 on sunday may 5th 2019.
Bassos
2019-05-11 19:44:05 UTC
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On 5-5-2019 19:00, Bassos wrote:

Netzach of Malkuth;
Where in Hod patterns are, in netzach the patterns actually operate in a
field.
And thus the interplay of observation into prediction.
Hod is what happened, codified into patterns.
Netzach is what will happen, as based upon 'predictions' from them
existing patterns.
expectations seem to fit here very well, except of course there is no
being yet to expect. Or perhaps there is a non-consious being that uses
patterns from the past to sort of automagically prepare for the
'expected' future.
Also sort of the process of natural selection.
If the auto predictions where wrong, procreation is less likely.

There are no goals yet, but there is interaction and adjustments based
upon those interactions.
7 of pentacles with it's fruit of previous labor is not bad, seeing as
sowing and harvesting is most assuredly based upon predicting future
events on past patterns.

Imo it is not so much a reward, but a result.
fairly Saturn in feel.
Bassos
2019-05-19 17:34:10 UTC
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On 11-5-2019 21:44, Bassos wrote:

Tiphareth of Malkuth;

Balance.

Think tightrope balance.
Continuous preparation even while choosing.
the choice changes the balance, so the thing keeps moving.

True choice; how do you balance.
Individual 'things', that 'move'.
Mike_Duffy
2019-05-19 18:11:02 UTC
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True choice; how do you balance.
Individual 'things', that 'move'.
Juggle?
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Bassos
2019-05-20 07:36:41 UTC
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True choice; how do you balance.
Individual 'things', that 'move'.
Juggle?
juggling has a juggler and things that get juggled.
In Tiphareth of Malkuth, there is all the motion parts, but not the
sentient parts.

assiah stuff.

I welcome your interaction, coz even in these 5 weeks i have formulated
new things based on this gates of understanding work.
Mike_Duffy
2019-05-20 13:44:38 UTC
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In Tiphareth of Malkuth, there is all the motion parts,
but not the sentient parts.
How sentient need be the juggled?


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Bassos
2019-05-20 21:46:18 UTC
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In Tiphareth of Malkuth, there is all the motion parts,
but not the sentient parts.
How sentient need be the juggled?
8< juggling kittens

Do you really not understand ?

the motion of balance.

move a little this way, and a little that way.

the hindbrain does that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cerebellum
Bassos
2019-05-25 21:54:28 UTC
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Geburah of Malkuth;

After having achieved balance, it becomes a danger to get reduced to
stagnation, so here is geburah of malkuth to make sudden/extreme-ish moves.

getting out of balance to be able to move, and to adapt to a greater
environment.
Balance is nice, but motion of a greater 'in balance organism' needs
motion outside of balance.

It is trying new things.

Rebellion and such.

Actually necessary to keep the spiral going.

It is thus also play, just randomly trying new things for the excitement.

Very energetic motion, to brake the mold.
Bassos
2019-06-01 12:11:50 UTC
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Chesed of Malkuth;

Movement transcends into planning movement.
Chesed of malkuth being the collection of all possible movements.

This is only within a universe, so the set of moves possible to make for
the entity moving.

a collection of balanced moves moving together as a bigger whole.

This is facilitated by having small balanced entities getting gebura's
out of balance, so to make this new greater balance, incorporating the
imbalance of geburah into a bigger set of moves.

Chesed is about the place where things happen, malkuth is about motion;
the house of moves.

'repertoire'; you can add to what you have 'balanced' before.

There is some synthesis (!) in there, yet a proper one liner eludes me.
Bassos
2019-06-02 21:11:04 UTC
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Chesed of Malkuth;
Sooo Gate 7 ?
(hint: yes)
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Movement transcends into planning movement.
I do not like this part at all.
Planning imp-lies a decidort.

Some plans can be inherent in structure, so sorta kinda.
DNA plans movement, yet also plans for possible future movements.
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Chesed of malkuth being the collection of all possible movements.
This feels wrong.
something about energizing particles.
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This is only within a universe, so the set of moves possible to make for
the entity moving.
See ?
Wrong, coz caveat.
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a collection of balanced moves moving together as a bigger whole.
This seems worth investigating.

The ben rowe thing about stars forming patterns to create bigger stars.
https://hermetic.com/browe/index
(students are encouraged to just study everything there)
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This is facilitated by having small balanced entities getting gebura's
out of balance, so to make this new greater balance, incorporating the
imbalance of geburah into a bigger set of moves.
Yeah, well. we are doing one sephirah on its own at a time.
(within 4 worlds, without the supernals)
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Chesed is about the place where things happen, malkuth is about motion;
the house of moves.
Chesed is that when moving down the tree, so after Binah.
Up the tree from assiah seems different.
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'repertoire'; you can add to what you have 'balanced' before.
I sorta like this.
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There is some synthesis (!) in there, yet a proper one liner eludes me.
Synthesis is awesome.
Bassos
2019-06-08 14:08:27 UTC
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Gate 8, Malkuth of Yesod;

Having become an entity that predicts the future, the time is now.

Two balloon like entities floating around non-balloon like space, and
when bumping no longer the math-point action-reaction geometry motion.

Instead they change colour.
(while also still being impacted by 'newtonian' action-reaction physics)

The colour change is the internal consideration of the bumping into
another balloon.

ie; the start of feelings.

how are 'You' moved, instead of 'how did that move move me'.

Also the start of actual interaction.

Just predicting where to shoot a proverbial pool-ball based on angles
becomes very different when them pool-balls develop feelings about being
moved.
Bassos
2019-06-16 04:26:11 UTC
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Gate 9, Yesod of Yesod;

The foundation of the foundation is akin to the etheric plane.
Life is build upon foundational frameworks.
The etheric plane is the most physical of material planes that are in
fact not actually physical.

An analog is magnetism, specifically electromagnetism.

Attraction and repulsion as an effect of motion.(moving electrons)

Dreams are a decent way into viewing the astral plane, but not so much
the etheric plane. That is moar akin to the stuff your dreams are made of.

I am completely unhappy with my description above, and i hope i will
find a way better and more refined description of yesod of yesod.

Double genitals seems to be something that needs to have something to do
with this. Generational/procreative feelings.
It is that today is the sunday of changing into hod of yesod, but
otherwise the above should not have been posted.

Oh well, side effects of interest i suppose.
Bassos
2019-06-23 08:10:35 UTC
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Gate 10, Hod of Yesod;

Hod is about patterns and yesod is about feelings.

Habit.

The etheric plane gets molded into the physical plane by the repeated
movements in the mental on the astral on said etheric plane.

Hod of yesod is said process.

Motion that is in motion stays in motion, until adjusted by an external
force.

Thus the interaction with the world in netzach, but in Hod-of-Yesod
itself it is the solidifying of motion into matter.

As this project is bottom up from motion into mind there is no internal
reasoning about how the feelings shape our motion.

It is more akin to finding motion that feels better than other motion.
Mostly about lack of friction/resistance, coz that feels easier.

Thus also the problem with a local minimum in feeling-optimization.

In an environment that is hot, staying still might feel better than
moving. Yet in a longer view; motion is needed to get out of the heat.

If the climb would stop here, all life would stagnate.

Change your habits of feelings by using the mental and astral planes to
change 'how' you feel about input.

Pain is to be avoided, yet as a mental imput brings working muscles is
long term good for feelings, into the astral images of being able feel
walking as easy, into the etheric sensations of becoming stronger, after
the initial mental/astral combo purrsuasion activities.
Bassos
2019-06-30 12:08:45 UTC
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Gate 11, Netzach of Yesod;

Netzach is about the world, forms, and expectations.

In Hod of Yesod, there is the collection of patterns of behaviour that
feel a particular way. In netzach of Yesod these feelings are actually
felt and in Hod of yesod the conclusions as in behaviourmodification occurs.

The form of feelings.
Etiquette, but for social norms as distancekeeping, and huggability.
Not for what fork to use first, but when to smooch.

Communal feelings due to common knowledge about the 'proper' feelings
for a setting.

Groupfeel, as in hooligans, all understand what to feel, and then go for
those feelings hard. Objectively being a fan of some team that has
almost nothing to do with you is weird.

Feelingswise, cheering for us vs them is completely normal.

Tribal feelings, but not yet customs.

Also the structure of your sensory body, due to the repetitions on Hod
patterns into netzach forms.

Hod is how you move, netzach is what that looks like after a while.
Bassos
2019-06-30 15:56:22 UTC
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Gate 11, Netzach of Yesod;
Gate 11, has got something to do with magick ?
Yaknow; 11, the number of (what some fools claim) magick ?

Magick then being a fairly low level approach to changinging(!) reality.

"high" magick then actually meaning the magick done by people up the
hill. (In the city)

Same magick as witchcraft.
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Netzach is about the world, forms, and expectations.
Funny how i/you mentioned witch-raft. (floating pur sang)
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In Hod of Yesod, there is the collection of patterns of behaviour that
feel a particular way.
This is not about other sephiroth.

Focus on the just one part of part.

I know you feel tired of being held back, think of that as good training.

You are the Wizard of Amsterdam; King of Alt.magick, worst poster on
Usenet, etc, etc, are you not ?

WoA, kinda wow, but not right, seems magical enuff.
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In netzach of Yesod these feelings are actually
felt and in Hod of yesod the conclusions as in behaviourmodification occurs.
You are intermingling lots of planes and sephiroth.

I understand that union comes naturally, so we undertook this 49 gates work.

Next year we will do the same 49 gates work, but now including
invocations of the aspects of reality governing these gates.
(heh, you claim so, but we are only at 11 of 49, so pretending full
invocations on a second run now is premature)
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The form of feelings.
I wanna explain music here.
But;

what if i drown, in this sea of devotion,
just a stone, left unturned ?
(my need is deep, wide endless oceans, feel IT furious; the fire burns on)
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Etiquette, but for social norms as distancekeeping, and huggability.
I feel ya.

Respect creates an unnatural distance.

Natural distance is handled by feelings of norms.
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Not for what fork to use first, but when to smooch.
Heh, you just want all societies to be huggable, and smoochable, so meh.
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Communal feelings due to common knowledge about the 'proper' feelings
for a setting.
Our country reeks of trees,
our yaks are realy large,
and they smell like rotten beef-carcasses.

Ren and stimpy,; when cartoons could do anything.
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Groupfeel, as in hooligans, all understand what to feel, and then go for
those feelings hard. Objectively being a fan of some team that has
almost nothing to do with you is weird.
True that.
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Feelingswise, cheering for us vs them is completely normal.
Nah mate.

We are all us.

Them now is outside our universe.
And only coz of the mirror thing of moar lies means moar real.
(see nagasiva vs bassos, 2003-ish)
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Tribal feelings, but not yet customs.
The growing perspective.

Woman make the house larger, men conquer nigh-boring tribes.
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Also the structure of your sensory body, due to the repetitions on Hod
patterns into netzach forms.
Weak axecape into general knowledge.

You did not do any work, coz you imagined already knowing what to say.

That should mean extra research, but you went into meh.

How bout this week into Tiphareth ?

Tiff of yesod; source ?
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Hod is how you move, netzach is what that looks like after a while.
Sort of.
Bassos
2019-07-06 09:06:12 UTC
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On 30-6-2019 14:08, Bassos wrote:

Gate 12: Tiphareth of Yesod,

Tiphareth is about balance and harmony.
Yesod is about sensations as a foundation of being.

Together they scream: Bhakti Yoga;

The joy-ification of every single experience.

Kinda akin to oath of the abyss, but then in continuous practice,
instead of some formality.

Sentence:
Joy is something you do.
Bassos
2019-07-13 11:11:56 UTC
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Gate 13; Geburah of Yesod;

Passion.

The energization of all you are.

All you are is motion.

If motion moves faster; things heat up.

Enflame thyself with prayer.

next week chesed of yesod; peace.
silence.

This is too ez for these 2.

Material geburah is a black hole, coz all action in a point.
Material chesed is empty space.
(maybe empty)

Both together is sometimes a yellow sun.

yaknow, sol, jesus, indra, the harmony of empty and full.

all sols are also souls, and so they themselves are in the wheel of samsara.

Prey to Amithaba if you feel prayer is nice.

Pray to Avolikateshforum, or somesuch, when ya brave ;P
Bassos
2019-07-13 11:21:41 UTC
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Gate 13; Geburah of Yesod;
Passion.
The energization of all you are.
All you are is motion.
If motion moves faster; things heat up.
Enflame thyself with prayer.
next week chesed of yesod; peace.
silence.
This is too ez for these 2.
Material geburah is a black hole, coz all action in a point.
Material chesed is empty space.
(maybe empty)
Both together is sometimes a yellow sun.
yaknow, sol, jesus, indra, the harmony of empty and full.
all sols are also souls, and so they themselves are in the wheel of samsara.
Prey to Amithaba if you feel prayer is nice.
Pray to Avolikateshforum, or somesuch, when ya brave ;P
Avo; Ava
lika; loki
Tesh: Tav (end of the world; tav; 400) Ash(fire)
forum:

Bassos
2019-07-13 11:35:28 UTC
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Gate 13; Geburah of Yesod;
Passion.
The energization of all you are.
All you are is motion.
If motion moves faster; things heat up.
Enflame thyself with prayer.
next week chesed of yesod; peace.
silence.
This is too ez for these 2.
Material geburah is a black hole, coz all action in a point.
Material chesed is empty space.
(maybe empty)
Both together is sometimes a yellow sun.
yaknow, sol, jesus, indra, the harmony of empty and full.
all sols are also souls, and so they themselves are in the wheel of samsara.
Prey to Amithaba if you feel prayer is nice.
Pray to Avolikateshforum, or somesuch, when ya brave ;P
Avo; Ava
lika; loki
Tesh: Tav (end of the world; tav; 400) Ash(fire)
forum: http://youtu.be/6Pev6QXhmlk
I love these sounds.

Ava-loki-T-Ash-Vara Avalokiteshvara Mantra Namo Ratna Trayaya, Namo Arya
Jnana Sagara, Vairochana, Byuhara Jara Tathagataya, Arahate, Samyaksam
Buddhaya, Namo Sarwa Tathagate Bhyay, Arhata Bhyah, Samyaksam Buddhe
Bhyah, Namo Arya Avalokite shoraya Bodhisattvaya, Maha Sattvaya, Maha
Karunikaya, Tadyata, Om Dara Dara, Diri Diri, Duru Duru Itte We, Itte
Chale Chale, Purachale Purachale, Kusume Kusuma Wa Re, Ili Milli, Chiti
Jvalam, Apanaye Shoha

Is just a list of people.

To actually understand how these people are all relevant together;

understand all their lives.
understand all their interactions.
enjoy all their resulting motions.

That has alot of Chaos.

I will hug ya too though ;)
Bassos
2019-07-21 14:15:49 UTC
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Gate 14; Chesed of Yesod,

Feelings outside and inside are experienced as the same.
There is only one flow of current, and 'it is observed' floating along,
feeling the same.

think compassion.
Compassion is caring for someone else.
Is that coz they are recognized as parts of the same flow of moves ?

Is there still distance in the concept of compassion ?
Of course there is distance in compassion, there is a you and an other.

With 'love' or union of subject and object, there is no difference, and
thus no distance or separation.

The house of feelings containing all the feelz.

'a person stands in a river, the river flowing around them. the wind
brushes against them and flows around them. On the inside that person is
gone with the water and the wind, while remaining still, standing in a
stream.'

There is no preference for one feeling over another.

All feeling being a particular expression of internal motion.
Bassos
2019-07-28 10:21:01 UTC
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Gate 15; Malkuth of Hod,

Kingdom of connections.
think connectome, the map of connections between neurons in a brain.
( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Connectome )

The map of all connections vs those connections themselves.
I feel Hod is real close to be about mapping things.
Malkuth is very much about motion itself.

Perhaps the making of the maps.
both actions and mapping.

Is making/starting a 'new' map an essential part of the nature of all of
Hod ?

I suppose a map has to be started at some (this) point, but after the
initial; we make maps, there can be map-adjustment instead of new maps
all the time.

The differences of approach into enlightenment.
make a detailed map about hermetic magick, exclude everything else,
cross the abyss by letting go of all that created mapping.

or the slow shaving of the crude block. (with or without the occasional
hard knock to remove the flakes)

Choose your starting maps wisely.

any decent map of creation should be able to at least describe all of
creation ;)
David Dalton
2019-08-02 05:30:56 UTC
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Post by Bassos
Gate 15; Malkuth of Hod,
Kingdom of connections.
think connectome, the map of connections between neurons in a brain.
( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Connectome )
The map of all connections vs those connections themselves.
I feel Hod is real close to be about mapping things.
Malkuth is very much about motion itself.
Perhaps the making of the maps.
both actions and mapping.
Is making/starting a 'new' map an essential part of the nature of all of
Hod ?
I suppose a map has to be started at some (this) point, but after the
initial; we make maps, there can be map-adjustment instead of new maps
all the time.
The differences of approach into enlightenment.
make a detailed map about hermetic magick, exclude everything else,
cross the abyss by letting go of all that created mapping.
or the slow shaving of the crude block. (with or without the occasional
hard knock to remove the flakes)
Choose your starting maps wisely.
any decent map of creation should be able to at least describe all of
creation ;)
That reminds me of my dragon lines experience, described on
http://www.nfld.com/~dalton/rat.html

Here is the relevant paragraph:

"Sometime in January/February [1996] one night when I was looking at the CBC
news displaying a web page chart, I envisaged all of the possible electronic
connections including phone and satellites and suddenly there was what I
thought at the time was a massive unravelling allong spiralling/looping lines
around my arms (and later my back). This I related to the `dragon lines' in
Marion Zimmer Bradley's The Mists of Avalon, and thought that evil bonds from
an evil magical pyramid scheme were coming undone. I now think that perhaps
they were forming, or being checked out, and are not bad."
--
David Dalton ***@nfld.com http://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)
http://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
“And don’t you know that there’s a wolf stalking in sheep’s
clothing tells me he’s the real thing/Think what your life would be
missing/if you didn’t have him to sing/To sing about” (S. McLachlan)
Bassos
2019-08-04 06:45:08 UTC
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Post by Bassos
Gate 15; Malkuth of Hod,
Kingdom of connections.
think connectome, the map of connections between neurons in a brain.
( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Connectome )
The map of all connections vs those connections themselves.
I feel Hod is real close to be about mapping things.
Malkuth is very much about motion itself.
Perhaps the making of the maps.
both actions and mapping.
Is making/starting a 'new' map an essential part of the nature of all of
Hod ?
I suppose a map has to be started at some (this) point, but after the
initial; we make maps, there can be map-adjustment instead of new maps
all the time.
The differences of approach into enlightenment.
make a detailed map about hermetic magick, exclude everything else,
cross the abyss by letting go of all that created mapping.
or the slow shaving of the crude block. (with or without the occasional
hard knock to remove the flakes)
Choose your starting maps wisely.
any decent map of creation should be able to at least describe all of
creation ;)
That reminds me of my dragon lines experience, described on
http://www.nfld.com/~dalton/rat.html
"Sometime in January/February [1996] one night when I was looking at the CBC
news displaying a web page chart, I envisaged all of the possible electronic
connections including phone and satellites and suddenly there was what I
thought at the time was a massive unraveling along spiraling/looping lines
around my arms (and later my back). This I related to the `dragon lines' in
Marion Zimmer Bradley's The Mists of Avalon, and thought that evil bonds from
an evil magical pyramid scheme were coming undone. I now think that perhaps
they were forming, or being checked out, and are not bad."
If you 'feeel' the map, i reckon that might be closer to yesod of hod,
if you dispassionately observe and describe/nuild the map, that would be
more the malkuth of hod part.

i sorta am in fresh waters myself here, so; many grains of salt to be
taken with these sephirothic explorations.

In reality we move in all the sephiroth all the time, so choosing a
particular gate of understanding for an activity is not really possible.

These activities are to be considered abstractions of actual happenings.

If you see 'dragon lines' that is different from considering what
electronic connections are, and different from feeling a simulacrum on
your own body, and different from telling me about that, and different
from remembering what happened, etc etc.

all one experience though :)
Bassos
2019-08-04 06:38:13 UTC
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Gate 16, Yesod of Hod;

The foundation of (proper) connections is the acceptance that all the
connecting parts are of equal value.

In mathematics relationships between numbers are about the
relationships, not so much about which numbers just happen to be used to
describe the relationship.

the 'every number is infinite' is relevant here.

I considered number theory and all math as foundational aspects of
appreciating connections.

Yet the true foundation for math is the capacity to connect.
observing and ordering those possible connections is a math thing, so
for me as hod of hod.

The foundation (yesod) of connection is the ability to interact.
the medium in which connections occur.
Bassos
2019-08-11 05:17:49 UTC
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Gate 17, Hod of Hod;

Glory of glory, or the shining emanation born from true agents being
applied to proper patients.
(see 'lemegeton')

Connections of connections, or a proper tool for it's job.

The glory part of Hod is about the result.
the set of possible and actual connections is more hod's internal
essence. (map not being the territory caveats apply)

You can use a hammer to hammer in a nail, but a decently heavy sturdy
object can be used instead. the concept of impact/law of maintenance of
impulse, that is the glorious part. the sparks from metal on metal is
just some outward 'exoteric' event.

I feel strongly that hod and hod of hod has to do with magick.
i just never have done magick with glory or splendour as a motivational
factor.

is glory the emanation itself and splendour the way an observer judges
said glory ? i find these terms to be of the confusing sort.

the glory of glory is it's possibility ?
the splendour of glory is the warm fuzzy feelings said glory sparked
within me ?
Bassos
2019-08-19 00:24:28 UTC
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Gate 18; Netzach of Hod,

As hod is about theory, netzach is about application.
testing the theory by experience.

hod is the idea of shapes, netzach is all them shapes come to being.

hod of netzach then seems akin to being aware of connections while
experiencing them.

the scientific process leans into this;
observe (yesod) -> make theory about what happened (hod) -> predict that
based on the theory the same/similar stuff will happen in the future
(hod again) -> test the prediction by experiments (netzach) -> adjust
theory. (hod) -> start again by new observations (yesod) adjusted for
the feedback from the experimental results.

in the scientific process, hod of netzach would be experimenting while
adjusting during experimentation.

Akin to agile scrumm development :)
(agile scrumm development is:
small teams working on incremental software development, wherein a
workable intermediate program is being developed and tested frequently.
As opposed to a planned out total package development, where say an
entire game is completely worked out before programming starts)
Bassos
2019-08-25 09:46:47 UTC
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Gate 19; Tiphareth of Hod,

Tiphareth is about balance/harmony/synthesis and such.
So the balance of tested connections has led to being the center of
spreading.

Sharing as an evolved Idea.
(platonic the Idea)

Teaching what was learned.

Kinda sorta what i am doing in this series :)

Ofcourse, a proper application of Tiphareth of Hod keeps the
'finding connections, testing them out and adjusting theories' from the
interplay of hod and netzachd.

The adagium;
'the most effective way of learning is called teaching'.

a guideline for finding 'true' connections is looking for a sense of
elegance in observed/theorized connections.

Elegance being a term akin to harmonious.

'refine' is my term for what to do once elegance has been found.

revisit the cycle of observe-predict-test, and refine.

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