thorns in religion, folklore, mythology, and history

[David Dalton]

Some examples of thorns in religion, folklore, mythology and history that I
know of are:

1. the thorn bush of Moses
2. the crown of thorns of Jesus (plus the thorns around the heart of Jesus in
the old Catholic Sacred Heart of Jesus picture)
3. the piercing of hands and feet mentioned in the Old Testament
4. the self-sacrifice of Quetzalcoatl on thorns
5. the “dragon-demon’s thorns” in a poem by Tsangyang Gyatso, the sixth
Dalai Lama
6. the hedge of thorns that the hero has to burst through in the original
Sleeping Beauty story
7. the wall of thorns in the Pied Piper story, inside which a blind boy and
another child are left behind after all the other children pass through

Do you know of any other instances?

I suspect that the spear and tree in Havamal 138 and the boar’s tusks that
wounded Adonis may also have been thorns.

Also there may be some association of fairies with thorns.

[Bassos]

Post by David Dalton
Some examples of thorns in religion, folklore, mythology and history that I

The concept of 'poke' ?
Poke carrol gnome de plume seems history, making hir folklore, and in
ten thousand years, mythology.

He was right about the worship of Mammon.

Prophets in our time always get boo's ?

Post by David Dalton
1. the thorn bush of Moses

Moses was an astrologer.

Thorns in astrology speak is about 'not quite harmonious'

think a circle.
Now think the circle in 24 parts.
now erect barriers between the parts.

that is a fairly decent approximation of how astrology works.

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2. the crown of thorns of Jesus (plus the thorns around the heart of Jesus in
the old Catholic Sacred Heart of Jesus picture)

Jesus had the crown of thorns above/upon hir head.

what is above tiphareth/Jesus /

depends on your (!) viewpoint.

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3. the piercing of hands and feet mentioned in the Old Testament

Breshith Bara ath alhim.

Shorthand for :

In the beginning alhim created the six directions of space.

Also the beginning of the bb aa rhyme versatilities.

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4. the self-sacrifice of Quetzalcoatl on thorns

Elaborate, i do not wanna investigate aztec stuff.

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5. the “dragon-demon’s thorns” in a poem by Tsangyang Gyatso, the sixth
Dalai Lama

Politics be gone!

Dalai is a title, of ruler.

Fuck that shit.

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6. the hedge of thorns that the hero has to burst through in the original
Sleeping Beauty story

Bleed; fuckers! :)

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7. the wall of thorns in the Pied Piper story, inside which a blind boy and
another child are left behind after all the other children pass through

Bushes of Brambles.

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Do you know of any other instances?

Lfg Molten Core ?

Post by David Dalton
I suspect that the spear and tree in Havamal 138 and the boar’s tusks that
wounded Adonis may also have been thorns.
Also there may be some association of fairies with thorns.

Satyrs ?

Legend claims a satyrs horn, when cut off a fresh satyr kill, and then
filled with the Satyrs blood and whine, will after that never run out of
whine.

Or wine, scriptures are unclear ;)

[David Dalton]

Post by Bassos

Post by David Dalton
Some examples of thorns in religion, folklore, mythology and history that I
4. the self-sacrifice of Quetzalcoatl on thorns

Elaborate, i do not wanna investigate aztec stuff.

Here’s what I have on my website:

"In the book
PAGAN & CHRISTIAN CREEDS: THEIR ORIGIN AND MEANING
( http://www.gutenberg.org/files/1561/1561-h/1561-h.htm )
by Edward Carpenter it says:

(2) See Kingsborough's Mexican Antiquities, vol. vi, p. 176, where it is said
"an ambassador was sent from heaven on an embassy to a Virgin of Tulan,
called Chimalman... announcing that it was the will of the God that she
should conceive a son; and having delivered her the message he rose and left
the house; and as soon as he had left it she conceived a son, without
connection with man, who was called Quetzalcoat, who they say is the god of
air." Further, it is explained that Quetzalcoatl sacrificed himself, drawing
forth his own blood with thorns; and that the word Quetzalcoatlotopitzin
means "our well-beloved son."

So Quetzalcoatl seems to have undergone a naked thorn hill climb like mine of
Sept. 5/6, 1991."

[David Dalton]

And again I wonder if such instances might have influenced the origin of
acupuncture.

[David Dalton]

Post by David Dalton
And again I wonder if such instances might have influenced the origin of
acupuncture.

From
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/303933910_THE_HISTORY_OF_ACUPUNCTURE_
NEEDLES

"Acupuncture needles are present from ancient times. The ancient needles have
gone a long way of transformation. From sharp stones and wooden thorns
through thick and dull metal spikes to more sophisticated golden and silver
tools, finally to become the standard stainless high technology sterile
single use disposables."

[David Dalton]

On the t-horns of a D-lemma.